by Mentat1231
rattkin wrote:
your options aren't really broadened, they are somewhat compressed within the same time. You can choose one, but not the other, etc. It's just obfuscation and confusion.
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I don't see it that way, and I've taught the game with Crossroads in it from the get-go; no one found the two options odd or inelegant or confusing. It's just interesting decisions (long-term vs. short, risk of a lot vs. certainty of a little, etc). But, your opinion makes sense too, and I'm not really disputing it; people don't have to like the game or the expansion. That isn't the point, as I'll explain in a moment.
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Irrelevant. A win is a win is a win. You might not get a huge amount of points, but it is guaranteed, your opponent will get far less than you.
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I have played with very little money the whole time and won. If someone is jumping ahead to deny you money, they're going to miss a lot. I'm going to scoop up points from hot springs, friends, paintings, etc.
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14k people say that it is rated at 7.2, which equate to "mediocre, meh game, not bad, but nothing particularly standing out" here on BGG. It's one thing to blame few reviewers, but your opinion is just one of 14k people. And the rules of math are winning with you here. The average value is 7.2. Of 14k people. Let that sink in.
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Don't be dramatic, especially when you've clearly not actually looked at the numbers. 5.7k rate it an 8 or higher. 4.5k rate it a 7. That puts it in the top half of a percent of games on BGG. Or, if you only count the 15.9k that are rated, Tokaido is in the top 2.8%.
In any case, I clearly meant critics, when I said "people", since that's the topic of this thread. So, even if you'd been right about the stats, it wouldn't address my point.
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You're generalizing a lot. Do you have anyone particular in mind? Who are the mythical "they"?
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I don't see it that way, and I've taught the game with Crossroads in it from the get-go; no one found the two options odd or inelegant or confusing. It's just interesting decisions (long-term vs. short, risk of a lot vs. certainty of a little, etc). But, your opinion makes sense too, and I'm not really disputing it; people don't have to like the game or the expansion. That isn't the point, as I'll explain in a moment.
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Irrelevant. A win is a win is a win. You might not get a huge amount of points, but it is guaranteed, your opponent will get far less than you.
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I have played with very little money the whole time and won. If someone is jumping ahead to deny you money, they're going to miss a lot. I'm going to scoop up points from hot springs, friends, paintings, etc.
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14k people say that it is rated at 7.2, which equate to "mediocre, meh game, not bad, but nothing particularly standing out" here on BGG. It's one thing to blame few reviewers, but your opinion is just one of 14k people. And the rules of math are winning with you here. The average value is 7.2. Of 14k people. Let that sink in.
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Don't be dramatic, especially when you've clearly not actually looked at the numbers. 5.7k rate it an 8 or higher. 4.5k rate it a 7. That puts it in the top half of a percent of games on BGG. Or, if you only count the 15.9k that are rated, Tokaido is in the top 2.8%.
In any case, I clearly meant critics, when I said "people", since that's the topic of this thread. So, even if you'd been right about the stats, it wouldn't address my point.
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You're generalizing a lot. Do you have anyone particular in mind? Who are the mythical "they"?
I'm referring to Zee Garcia and other members of the Dice Tower, Rahdo, and then a couple of podcasts had folks repeating the "just take the next spot" nonsense or asking if it was really a game. I can try to look back at which podcasts exactly, but the specific criticisms I mentioned in the first post are what I'm saying are wrong. There's no generalization if I restrict consideration to people who say these specific things about the game.